To solve the burnout epidemic, organizations need to look beyond traditional wellness perks.

In this edition of Author Talks, McKinsey Global Publishing’s Lucia Rahilly chats with Author Jennifer Moss, Harvard Business Review contributor, nationally syndicated radio columnist, and member of the Global Happiness Council. In her book, The Burnout Epidemic: The Rise of Chronic Stress and How We Can Fix It (Harvard Business Review Press, September 2021), Moss reveals the real causes of burnout and how organizations can stop the chronic stress cycle that an alarming number of workers suffer. An edited version of the conversation follows.

This article includes videos discussing employee burnout and a write-up based on their discussion about burnout and Jennifer Moss’s book on burnout.